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October 16, 2009
Must ... Not ... Make ... Joke
TriMet is conducting a survey to determine a new name for Fareless Square.
This is so hard...
Posted by Chris Smith at 12:04 AM
Comments
October 16, 2009 12:58 AM
al m Says:
A well know name was:
Square-less Fare
So lets make it the actual name, fits well anyway.
October 16, 2009 7:32 AM
R A Fontes Says:
Fare mess...Where?
October 16, 2009 9:07 AM
Samuel John Klein Says:
How about:
No-Fair Square?
Pretty much says it all to me.
October 16, 2009 9:26 AM
Cameron johnson Says:
How about this? Just Portland City Center Transit Center. Or to go by rail, and not to joke how about Galleria Square? All nthe rail seems to confluence around the galleria area by at least a block or two and is the name of a popular station. Pioneer square might work but who here woukd get confused? Imagine the max saying "This is the last stop in Pioneer Square" by Lloyd Center.
October 16, 2009 9:48 AM
EngineerScotty Says:
Price-reduced polygon?
October 16, 2009 10:38 AM
Bob R. Says:
Sorta-fareless, kinda-square.
October 16, 2009 12:58 PM
cheapdude Says:
homeless square
October 16, 2009 1:58 PM
ws Says:
squareless square
October 16, 2009 2:42 PM
al m Says:
SQUARE-LESS FARE-MESS!
This is a winner, I'm sending this one in!
October 16, 2009 2:47 PM
al m Says:
Wait a minute, I got even a better one:
TRI-MESS'S ONE OF A KIND SQUARE-LESS FARE-MESS
go by streetcar!
October 16, 2009 6:55 PM
Wells Says:
"Free Rail Zone"
Add PGE Park Station to Free Rail Zone.
October 16, 2009 7:38 PM
EngineerScotty Says:
For those with backgrounds in operations management or cost accounting:
"Free On Board".
October 16, 2009 9:46 PM
Jason E. Says:
I *seriously* submit the following:
1. Portland's Square
2. The Love Seat
3. The Square's Republic of People
Yours,
Jason E.
October 16, 2009 11:23 PM
Bob R. Says:
That's all well and good, Al, but it's not four words or less. :-)
(When I first saw the requirement on TriMet's survey page, for a moment I saw "four letter words or less".)
October 17, 2009 12:02 AM
al m Says:
OK Bob;
New logo;
GO BY STREETCAR-FREE!
October 17, 2009 11:43 AM
al m Says:
No really, in all seriousness:
October 17, 2009 12:08 PM
Jason Barbour Says:
There's way too much potential for some fun with this (some of these were thought up by the Transit Riders Union, some are my own):
Fred Hansen Money Square
John Charles Memorial Square
George Passadore Zone
James Chasse Memorial Square
Caesar Chavez Worshipers Zone
"Spare Some Change?" Zone
Vagrant A-hole Sales Territory (VAST)
Fare That Isn't Fair
Elect the TriMet Board
October 17, 2009 12:29 PM
al m Says:
Speaking of transit policy, we need some change in our leadership:
October 17, 2009 3:32 PM
kitty Says:
wow i am getting sick of these aggressively antisocial comments always being posted here. i think i will no longer engage the comments section.
October 17, 2009 4:08 PM
Cameron Johnson Says:
Wow. I had a feeling that was going to come from someone sooner or later. I worry Al M might get to someone soon. No offense. We're all transit geeks here. :)
October 17, 2009 8:04 PM
Jason Barbour Says:
Thing about this is the process is inherently funny, and Portland is as very much an antisocial city as it is a social one. TriMet will probably simply name it "Downtown Zone," "Fareless Rail Zone," or something nice and sterile anyhow, they're probably seeing if they can get anyone's creative juices flowing.
And with more and more people cramming ever closer on MAX, It's probably a good idea to brush up on some classic "Rantings of a TriMet Bus Driver" videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAepUGRUg0s
October 18, 2009 1:11 PM
al m Says:
wow i am getting sick of these aggressively antisocial comments always being posted here. i think i will no longer engage the comments section.
. I worry Al M might get to someone soon.
Oh jeez, you guys want debate or just passive agreement on everything? Actually those fareless names aren't stuff that I came up with but stuff that has appeared on the internet. But I do find the whole renaming thing a bit offensive. I'm dealing with people that have suffered at the hands of Trimet and Portland, and they waste time on stuff like this?
And you want offensive comments, I recommend you check the Oregonian blog, or the tribune, or the Mercury if you can tolerate a truly free speech blog.
It offends me that my ideas are seen as offensive! People have a right to express their point of view, if you don't like it tough! Nobody is forcing you to read anything that I post anywhere! You can join the others who refuse to read my stuff, does it look like that I care?
October 18, 2009 1:24 PM
al m Says:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAepUGRUg0s
WOW, that's really an oldie, from the very beginning!
Actually this blog played a huge role in my own development and attitude.
My first video might have been made as a result of getting booted here!
Only someone who was really really pissed would make some of those old videos.
There is a "minority" of opinion here in the greater Portland area about the direction of our transit agency. I am in the definite minority and some of my views do coincide with people of the anti rail persuasion, which has unfairly labeled me as being a "right wing stooge".
Right wing thought has at its fundamentals very sound policy around many issues, it can't be dismissed totally as a bunch of zealots trying to impose their morality on others, because at its roots, its completely logical.
October 18, 2009 3:31 PM
Cameron Johnson Says:
I would like to apologize, Mr. M. I had no intention to offend you, I was just afraid that some people didn't like you. You seem nice enough, and very very real. Sorry I Offended You.
October 18, 2009 8:44 PM
Nick theoldurbanist Says:
"There is a "minority" of opinion here in the greater Portland area about the direction of our transit agency. I am in the definite minority and some of my views do coincide with people of the anti rail persuasion, which has unfairly labeled me as being a "right wing stooge"."
>>>> Well, Al, I am definitely of the anti-rail persuasion regarding Portland, and happen to be an independent who voted for Obama.
It's sad that that the Metro/Trimet rail nuts have bamboozeed his Transportation Secretary, who apparently now believes that MAX is the wave of the future!
October 19, 2009 11:38 AM
dan w Says:
Piercings & Pitbulls Square
October 19, 2009 2:40 PM
al m Says:
I was just afraid that some people didn't like you.
LOL!!LOL!! You noticed that did you?? LOL!!
October 20, 2009 11:49 AM
Chris Says:
Mothership Polygon!
October 26, 2009 12:03 PM
Bob R. Says:
Looks like "Free Rail Zone" was the winner.
October 26, 2009 12:30 PM
R A Fontes Says:
Not incredibly clever, exciting, or surprising. Pretty clear, though.
The days of official second class status for 'the rest of us' are fast approaching.
October 26, 2009 12:42 PM
EngineerScotty Says:
>>The days of official second class status for 'the rest of us' are fast approaching.
The rest of WHO, precisely? My guess you mean "bus riders"... but you seem to be speaking of bus riders a s distinct class of persons from "train riders", and the removal of busses from the free-fare program is a discriminatory act against the former.
If you are a bus rider who doesn't live downtown, the removal of busses from the free-fare program probably doesn't affect you (unless you like to get a free ride home by cheating). Most trips within FRZ that could be taken on a bus can be taken by rail. I realize that "most" is not "all", of course.
Given the issues with fare collection, I would love to see Tri-Met add a free downtown circulator (bus) to reach those parts of Fareless Square, of Free Rail Zone, which aren't served well by rail--especially if/when we come out of the recession and operating revenues return to prior levels.
October 26, 2009 1:49 PM
R A Fontes Says:
As with the great majority of TriMet riders, our local line is indeed a bus. And we always pay our fares...so what?
My concern is not that the 'rest of us' are second class citizens, but that bus service is relegated to second class status. At the very minimum, this revamping of fareless square will bias toward more MAX ridership at the expense of that on buses, and TriMet's reports will dutifully report the widening rift.
Maybe this comes from concerns about the prospects of losing our bus to the LO streetcar. The shoes keep dropping from that puppy and it keeps on getting worse and worse.
October 26, 2009 5:43 PM
Jason Barbour Says:
Wow, that didn't take long for them to decide.
Perhaps the name suggestions (even more abrasive than some of those that Al and I posted?!) were getting to them.
What's the next to go from Downtown Portland (or Portland entirely)? Catlin Gabel is holding their final rummage sale, many other places are barely holding on, and businesses on 5th and 6th that TriMet congratulated themselves on for helping them stay open during construction are gone. At this rate, soon, there will be nothing to differentiate Portland from, say, Flint, Michigan.
October 27, 2009 8:30 AM
Aaron W. Says:
Jason, have you been to Flint? I can guarantee we are a LONG, LONG way from there.
October 27, 2009 9:16 AM
al m Says:
I can guarantee we are a LONG, LONG way from there.
I think ROME said the same thing about GREECE.
October 27, 2009 9:21 AM
al m Says:
So WELLS, did you get a prize or what, since you were the winner?
October 28, 2009 1:12 PM
R A Fontes Says:
Must ... Not ... Make ... Joke.1
TriMet is buying two old Alaska Railroad units to "back up" WES.
http://www.oregonlive.com/news/index.ssf/2009/10/after_morning_disruptions_trim.html





